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BLACKWATER on Democracy NOW:

Amy Goodman Interview with Jeremy Scahill from his new book "Blackwater."

Broadcast January 26, 2007 - partial transcription

Bush wants "to establish a volunteer civilian reserve corp. - such a corp. would function much like our military reserve. This would ease the burden on our armed forces by allowing us to hire civilians with critical skills to serve on missions abroad, when America needs them."

Amy: Is the president looking to further outsource war? My next guest is a reminder of just how privatized the Iraq War has become. Blackwater - what is it?

Jeremy Scahill: Blackwater is what began in 1996 as a private military training facility it was built near the Great Dismal Swamp in North Carolina... and with visionary executives most all of them former navy seals or other elite special forces people who envisioned it as a project that would take advantage of the anticipated government outsourcing. Well here we are a decade later and it's the most powerful mercenary firm in the world. It has 20,000 soldiers on the ready, the world's largest private military base, a fleet of 20 aircraft, including helicopter gunships. It's become nothing short of the Praetorian Guard for the Bush administration's so-called War-on-Terror: and it's headed by a very right-wing Christian activist, ex-navy-seal named Eric Prince-whose family was one of the major bankrollers of the Republican Revolution of the 1990's. He himself is a significant funder of President Bush and his allies. And what they've done is they've built a very frightening empire near the Great Dismal Swamp in North Carolina. They've got about 2,300 men actively deployed around the world. They provide the security for the US Diplomats in Iraq. They've guarded everyone from Paul Bremmer and John Negroponte to the current US Ambassador. They are training troops in Afghanistan; they've been active in the Caspian Sea, where they set up a Special Forces base, just miles from the Iranian border. They really are the frontline in what the Bush administration views as a necessary revolution in military affairs. In fact they represent the life's work of Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld.

Amy: What do you mean - 'the life's work'?

JC: Well Dick Cheney, when he was Defense Secretary under George HW Bush during the Gulf War - one of the things he did before leaving office was to create an unprecedented lucrative market for thee firm he would go on to head-Halliburton. He commissioned Halliburton to do a study on 'how to privatize the military bureaucracy. That effectively created the groundwork for the absolute war-profiteer bonanza, that we've seen unfold in the aftermath of 911. I mean Clinton was totally on board with all of this, but it has exploded since 911. So Cheney after he left office, when the first Bush was the president, went on to work at the neo-conservative American Enterprise Institute; which really led the push for the privatization of government-not just the military: and when these guys took office, in Rumsfeld's first real major address, delivered on September 10, 2001-he literally declared war on the Pentagon bureaucracy and said that he had come to liberate the Pentagon. And what he meant by that-he wrote this in an article in Foreign Affairs-was that government unlike companies can't die! He literally said that, so you have to figure out new incentives for competition. Rumsfeld said that it should be run more like a corporation than a bureaucracy. So that the company that most embodies that vision-and they call it a revolution in military affairs-it's a total part of the Project for the New American Century (PNAC) and the Neo-Conservative movement. The company that most embodies that is NOT Halliburton-it's Blackwater!

Amy: Explain what understand happened on Tuesday, the president giving his address and the Blackwater helicopter crashing.

JC: Well a lot of people - even though I think there's been a lot of reporting on it - and it's been out in the public sphere: I think a lot of people would still be surprised to know that the US Ambassador in Iraq and US diplomats throughout Iraq-and you have diplomatic facilities and regional occupation offices that are actually guarded by mercenaries. And Blackwater actually has a three-hundred million dollar contract that provides diplomatic security and they guard the American Ambassador and other US diplomats in Iraq. While we understood-and of course as you know reports are always very shaky in the early stages-is that "a US diplomatic convoy came under fire" in a Sunni neighborhood of Baghdad... a Blackwater helicopter apparently landed to try to respond to that attack. Because Blackwater and its 'Little-Bird' helicopters provide the security for diplomatic convoys - and they get engaged in some kind of fire-fight on the ground and four men from one helicopter were killed and then another helicopter responded and was brought down either by fire or it got entangled in some wires. Four of the five men who worked for Blackwater who were killed were shot in the back of the head according to reports. And what's interesting about that is the American Ambassador said that he had traveled with the men and then he'd gone to the morgue; to view their bodies. He said that the circumstances of their deaths were unclear because of what he called 'the Fog of War.' But I think it's very possible that they were guarding a very senior diplomat, if not the ambassador himself. We don't have evidence to suggest that-but the fact that the Ambassador really came forward and said that these were fine men and he was with them and he was in the morgue - it indicates that this could've been a very serious attack on a senior official.

Amy: What do you think is the actual body count in Iraq of US soldiers? I mean we count them very carefully but you know when it surpassed 3,000-and this was extremely significant. What really is the number of US military dead?

JC: Military deaths - I think it's interesting because the lines have been totally erased. I would say that we should be counting the deaths of Blackwater soldiers, in the total troop count. I mean I filed over the last year a lot of Freedom of Information Act requests and one of the ways that we have found to discover the deaths of the number of contractors that have been killed is actually through the department of labor because the government has a federal insurance scheme that's been set-which is actually very controversial. It grew out of something that's called the Defense Base Act. It's insurance provided to contractors who serviced the US military abroad. As of late last year more than 600 families of contractors in Iraq had filed for those benefits. So I think we're talking somewhere in the realm of-and these are just US contactors that have rights to federal benefits inside the US. Remember it's not necessarily Americans that make up the majority of these 100,000-100,000 contractors that are operating in Iraq right now, forty-eight thousand of whom are mercenaries, according to the GAO. I don't think it's possible to put a fine point on the number of troops killed because the Bush administration has found a back-door way to engage in an undeclared expansion of the occupation by deploying these private armies. And in the state of the Union address the other night Bush announced this civilian reserve corp., which is gaining momentum among democrats and others - Westly Clark has talked about it, the former presidential candidate and former Supreme Allied NATO Commander. But what that is, is another Frankenstein scheme that Cheney and these guys have cooked up in their outsourcing laboratory, to engage in an undeclared expansion.

On the one hand we have Bush talking about an official US troop surge - the army a few months ago when Colin Powell said that "the active duty arm is basically broken." The army was calling for 30,000 troops over ten years. Bush announces in his state of the Union, 92,000 active duty troops over five years, and at the same time they're increasing the presence of the other contractors, while talking about some privatized or civilian reserve corp. This is all an undeclared expansion of the undeclared expansion of the US occupation, totally against the will of the American people and the world!

Amy: Civilian reserve Corp.?

JC: Right - that's what they're calling it and you know, a lot of what's been tossed around since 2002, has been envisioning a sort of disaster response, international aid, you know it's all benign sounding: but the context of it when bush announced the other night, he said that "we need 92,000 troops and we should develop a civilian reserve corp. to supplement the work of the military."

Now, it's interesting Amy that two years ago-that Eric Prince, the head of Blackwater USA was speaking at a military conference - he only comes out of his headquarters to speak in front of military audiences, he does NOT speak in front of civilians. He's on panels with top brass and others-he's very secretive. He gave a major address in which he called for "The Contractors Brigade." I can read you what he said - this was two years ago - before Bush called for his civilian reserve corp. Eric Prince, Blackwater USA: "There's consternation in the Pentagon about increasing the permanent size of the army. We want to add thirty-thousand people and they talked about costs of anywhere from 3.6 billion to 4 billion to do that. Well by my math that comes out to about 135 thousand per soldier." And then Prince added: "We could do it-certainly cheaper!"

So now you have Blackwater, the Praetorian Guard for the War-on-Terror itching to get into Sudan and you know something happened last year that got no attention whatsoever. In October, President Bush lifted sanctions on Christian Southern Sudan; and there have been reports now that Blackwater has been negotiating directly with the southern Sudanese regional government to come in and to start training the Christian Forces of the South of Sudan. Blackwater has been itching to get into Sudan and Eric Prince is on the Board of Christian Freedom International, which is an evangelical missionary organization that has been targeting Sudan for many years-and-there is a political agenda that Blackwater fits perfectly into whether it's Iraq and Afghanistan or Sudan.

Amy: And the other connections between Blackwater's lawyer, the Bush administration and the Republican Party?

JC: Most recent is that President Bush hired Blackwater's lawyer-Blackwater's former lawyer, to be his lawyer. He replaced Harriet Meyers. His name is Fred Fielding, of course a man who goes back many decades to the Reagan administration, the Nixon administration - he's now going to be Bush's top lawyer - and he was Blackwater's lawyer. Joseph Schmitts, who was the former Pentagon Inspector General, whose job it was to police the war-contractor bonanza - who then goes to work for, one of the most profitable of them, is the vice chairman of the Prince Group, Blackwater's parent company and the general counsel for Blackwater. Ken Starr is now-the former Whitewater prosecutor, the man who led the Impeachment charge against President Clinton-Kenneth Starr is now Blackwater's counsel of record, and has filed briefs for them at the Supreme Court in fighting against unlawful death suits - filed against Blackwater- for the deaths of its people and US soldiers in war zones. And then perhaps the most frightening employee of Blackwater is Coffer Black. This is the man who was the head of the CIA's Counter-Intelligence at the time of 911: The man who promised President Bush that he was going to bring bin Laden's head back in a box on dry-ice and talked about having his men chop bin Laden's head off with a machete. He told the Russians that he was going to bring the heads of the Mujahadin back on sticks: "there are going to be flies crawling across their eyeballs." Coffer Black is a thirty year veteran of the CIA: the man who many credit with really spear-heading the extraordinary rendition program: the man told congress that there was a before 911 and an after 911-and that after 911, 'the gloves come off.' He is now a senior executive at Blackwater, and perhaps their most powerful behind-the-scenes operative!

Amy: And Electoral Politics?

JC: Well Eric Prince, head of Blackwater - and other Blackwater executives are major bankrollers of the president, of Tom De lay, of Santorum... When these guys were running congress, Blackwater had just a revolving door there, they were really welcomed in as heroes. Senator John Warner, the former head of the Armed Services Committee he called them "our silent partner in the war on global terror." Eric Prince's sister Betsy DeVos is married to Dick DeVos who recently lost the gubernatorial race in Michigan. But also this is a family, the Prince family that really was one of the primary funders, it was Amway and Dick DeVos in the 1990's and it was Edgar Prince and his network: Eric Prince's father that really created James Dobson's Focus on the Family-they gave them the seed money to start it. Gary Bower who was one of the original signers of the to the Project for the New American Century (PNAC), a major anti-choice leader in this country, a former presidential candidate - founder of the Family Research Council,: he credits Edgar Prince - Eric's father - with giving him the money to start the Family Research Council. We're talking about people who were at the forefront of the rightwing Christian Revolution in this country. That really is gaining steam; despite recent electoral defeats-and what's really frightening is you have a man in Eric Prince who is a neo-Crusader, a Christian Supremacist who has been given over half-a-billion dollars in federal contracts and that's not-to-mention his black contracts, his secret contracts or his contracts with foreign-friendly governments like Jordan. This is a man who espouses Christian Supremacy and he has been given essentially - allowed to - create a private army to defend Christendom around the world against seculars and Muslims and others, and who has really been brought into the fold. He refers to Blackwater as the Fed-Ex of the Pentagon. He says - 'When you really want a package to get somewhere - do you go with the Postal Service or do you go with Fed-Ex?' This is how these people view themselves. Ah, and it embodies everything that President Eisenhower prophesied against-what would happen with the rise of an unchecked military-industrial-complex. You have it all in Blackwater!

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Jim Kirwan


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